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On 14 November 2017 the CCN channel (Conscious Consumer Network) did a two-hour live interview with me as the author of AmaBhulu. The hosts were Mel Ve in Portugal and Karin Smith in the United States, both of South African extraction. Click the image below to see the interview on CCN.

Having made the point that “Everything goes back to Graaff-Reinet between 1795 and  1803“, I was obliged to explain. I suspect many folks do not know that key history.  There is a lot from that period that informs the current situation in South Africa. It also neatly “strangles” a few political holy cows.

In the last quarter I am asked to address the current situation in South Africa, which I do via three key points:


  • White folks should stay out of the fight that inevitably is coming between Black South African political factions.

  • White South Africans need to stop thinking that they can ignore reality and they need to start making decisions about the future of their families.

  • Those who feel unsafe should move West.

Since I feel strongly about some of the issues, I got a little animated (below), shall we say. But that hopefully adds a bit to the value of the interview.

Correction: I know that, as a scientist, I tend to harp a bit on facts and numbers, but I need to point out that at one point I stated that an event or situation was in “1700”, when it was entirely clear from the preceding content that I had meant to say “1800”. My apologies to the audience for misspeaking. I had the 1700s on the brain, so to speak.

Technological: As a technological person, I feel obliged to point out that the hosting technology was Zoom, which allowed me to be interviewed in my studio office in Vancouver, British Columbia. It also allowed me to share maps with the audience, though it worked less than 100% perfectly. Though my system is 1080p compatible, bandwidth constraints in running the interview among three countries  reduced the video quality.

I shall make a point of figuring out how to better share images during such interviews on Zoom.

Harry Booyens